Posts by The Quiet One

"A few days now and not a word about how deceiving people is wrong no matter what the goal is." ... So you consider anyone working undercover, even when lives are at stake or dangerous criminals/drug dealers need to be apprehended as immoral? No doubt you will change your tune and say 'Oh well, that is different' , but I am merely responding to your black+white statement of morality.. http://www.timescolonist.com/news/national/undercover-female-cops-arrest-boy-in-sex-assaults-1.14734

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Funny WT quote on blood transfusion = murder

by Splash in

*** w50 5/15 p. 159 letter ***.

it is freely acknowledged that the fluid from a person of one type of blood may kill a person of another type of blood.

if, now, you donated your blood, and your type of blood killed the person receiving the transfusion, would you be guilty of murder?

The Quiet One

Imagine that you donated a homemade soup (that you had made because you wanted to help those in need) to a soup kitchen that was desperately short on food.. Then someone came in who was starving, and asked for any soup but chicken due to a serious allergy.. But the people working there gave him your soup by accident, causing him to have an allergic reaction that killed him. (or those working there contaminated the food, or the chicken unbeknownst to you had bird flu etc..) Would you be responsible for their negligence, or for the harm you could not have foreseen? Would you ever donate soup again, or would you just leave people to starve..safe in the knowledge that you could never have any part in anyone's death by your donation?

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I am a Human Apostate, and so are YOU (YOUTUBE)

by Watchtower-Free in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dbfc4rclay&nr=1&feature=endscreen.

her blog.

http://jehovahs-witness-cult-control.blogspot.com/.

The Quiet One

Love this comment.. "Jehoshua4u said: 52 seconds ago Hey, its a journey from Spiritual darkness to Spiritual light. Wrong expectations may happen.But, it helps to be more patient enough and wait for Jehovah. That's exactlywhat JW's did. They still expect the end and that makes us active. let's say, We wait for Bus in a bus stop, presume the next bus would be ours, but wouldn't be. We don't give up, we wait and waitand finally bus comes. Similarly JW expected 1914,1925,1975 and still expecting the end. What's wrong in that? (Increased light)" ....If you're waiting at a place where there isn't a bus due, the bus service that you're waiting for has never even existed, and you won't listen to anyone who tries to tell you this..then you are stood there looking like a complete idiot wasting your life..Thats what is wrong. (this could probably be extended further, but I can't be bothered)

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I am a Human Apostate, and so are YOU (YOUTUBE)

by Watchtower-Free in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dbfc4rclay&nr=1&feature=endscreen.

her blog.

http://jehovahs-witness-cult-control.blogspot.com/.

The Quiet One

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Chess ban is still a current teaching

by zound in

goatshapeddemons mention of chess being banned by jw's at one time was a new one to me.

it got me thinking.

they never corrected that did they?

The Quiet One

I have to say, it has not been banned in recent decades or a DF offense.. I know people who have been playing chess for decades and everybody knows (I'm not exactly part of their closest friends and I've known for years).. Most just take such 'counsel' and do what they like. My point is, chess isn't banned really..

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FINALLY! Can you prove God exists? If you can I won't ask again!

by punkofnice in

i have seen debates and shizzle about god or not god etc etc.. i was even confronted by an aggressive and trheatening muslim in the street, who was angry that i wanted proof that god existed.

he ranted on a load of old b0110cks about 'hell' and stuff.

finally he yelled at me: 'do you want god to write your name in the sky?

The Quiet One

Invisible again.. HUMBLED, do you have any response to my question about the Bible vs. Miracles? Thanks :)

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Candace Conti v Watchtower Society | June 3, 2013 | Respondent's Brief - prepared by Rick Simons | A136641

by jwleaks in

jw leaks has published the respondent's brief prepared by rick simons in the case: candace conti v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york & fremont congregation of jehovah's witnesses.

(90 pages).

http://jwleaks.org/candace-conti/.

The Quiet One

@PRIME-- "The only way Jonathon Kendrick would have been able to take the plaintiff to his home, is if the plaintiff's parents gave Kendrick explicit permission to take their daughter off in a car by himself. If this did indeed happen, such a thing had nothing to do with the door-to-door ministry." ..Whether it relates legally or technically to the 'door-to-door ministry' is irrelevant to me. Perhaps you would make a fine lawyer, if all that concerns you is legalities.. From a moral point of view it would be clear to most 'normal' (I love how you use this term to try to blame her parents for trusting Candace with someone they had no reason to be wary of) people that if you do not warn parents at all that someone may be worth keeping an eye on, no details necessary, the atmosphere of trust within most congregations will lead to dangerous scenarios if someone is a predator. For example, when I was a child, my parents wouldn't have batted an eyelid about me going off on a return call or getting a lift back from the territory alone with an adult member of the opposite sex.. Because we, as Jw's, generally trust each other, don't we? Surely you don't believe that all parents in most congregations would never allow their child to get a lift to/from the territory, or to work with an adult member of the opposite sex on the ministry? (and this question would still require ignoring the fact that members of the same sex could be a potential abuser that the elders know about, but I'm guessing that you wouldn't want to discuss anything outside of this case..) . I know that I did both frequently. The moral question remains: If YOU were an elder, would you have privately warned the parents in the congregation.. Or would YOU have merely hoped they would use the magical pedophile-detecting magazine that should have given everyone sufficient warning that Kendrick was dangerous? I know you won't reply, but just think about it.. (I'll leave discussion of Watchtower policy to someone else, to me.. at the very least.. a general warning talk regarding the issue should be given at all times that molestation has been so much as accused let alone confessed, to warn people to not leave their children alone with anyone for even a short car journey, coupled with privately warning parents about an individual.. which happened at a congregation I know of once (the informal private warnings not the talk), although the person they were warned about may not have been baptised, as if that matters.. rather than merely ignoring the problem and hoping nobody gets hurt.)

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Why do some of the YouTube video creators remind current Jws that they should not be,..

by notjustyet in

....watching their videos?.

i am a subscriber to quite a few of the ex jw youtube channels and i enjoy many of the videos.

i do cringe a bit when i hear the person in the video remind the jw that they "should not be watching these videos as it is against the rules and council of the wtbts, gb, elders taking the lead, etc,..".

The Quiet One

Great point.. I'd never think that deep ;)